Showing posts with label firefox. Show all posts
Showing posts with label firefox. Show all posts

inconsistencies are the norm between browsers and devices with html and embed

Inconsistencies seem to be the norm between browsers and devices. For instance, at least for a short while, I've decided to use a cursive style handwriting for the text of this blog. However, if my understanding is correct, it won't appear that way to someone on a tablet or other mobile device.

When it comes to html audio/video, and the various ways to embed audio/video, who knows what will work in each case. so far, it seems that the newer "embed" code works better in mobile than the older "iframe." But the reverse seems to be the case on a standard OS, especially using Firefox as a browser.

There is even apparently a great difference between browsers. Chrome seems to see every type of tag and code as far as I have been able to gather from my testing. Firefox does not do as well. As I don't use Windows, I have only been able to test IE in older versions on wine. That is hardly a fair way to test it.

It seems that Firefox on a standard OS would prefer the old fashioned "iframe" over the "embed" code, but even that could be something specific to the case. Also, it is hard for me to discern which audio file type plays best in Firefox. It is either ogg or mp3, so if one is able to use both in every attempt, there should be no problem getting it to work. however, it is much more practical to just use mp3, and if Firefox has trouble playing the file, then that is a problem more with Firefox rather than the file type.

Tablets and mobile devices are a whole other situation. For instance, so far from my testing, it seems that an android tablet likes the "embed" tag over the "iframe" tag, but maybe not in all cases. There was at least one case where the "iframe" tag seemed to work well. The problem is that this is the exact opposite of how things seem to work in Firefox.

It seems that the bottom line might be: use Google chrome and see the entire internet (with the exception of a slight problem with flash, which as I posted before is a technology that should be on the way out in the next few years).

Firefox Browser not what it used to be?

Well at this point, I would have to wonder if Firefox has gone downhill? No offense to them, but code and embeds that work on Chrome, simply will not work on Firefox. It could be that the version is in need of an update, or it could be a problem specific to Linux, I don't know. But my recent experience has been that Chrome (with the possible exception of flash, which should be a technology on the way out, but isn't- which is another blog post) works far better than Firefox currently.

Notes on what works with audio tag or embed, and what doesn't

Since I've been working with html audio and various sources for audio tag and embed, I think I've discovered what works and what doesn't. First of all, Chrome seems to be the best browser ofr this sort of thing. Firefox and Opera don't seem to always work, even after testing with Chrome and having it work.

That said, it seems that using the audio tag works better than an embed of audio in many cases. There are sites like bandcamp and others that seem to have worked out a way of getting audio to work all around, on any browser, but doing it yourself - it is likely best to use the audio tag rather than an embed code. Also, using Google Drive as a source only seems to work in the Google Chrome environment. As an aside, Chrome seems to look best on the web in general. What I mean by that is I had problems with the way a web page was designed and looked on Firefox and Opera, but it was fine in Chrome.

Of course, YouTube always seems to work in any browser, but that is mainly a video site that can be used for audio too, not strictly an embed of audio.

Conclusions so far? If one wants to do it the easiest way, use Youtube or Vimeo and create a simple video container for the audio. Or, just as well, use bandcamp. If one is like me, and wants to experiment a little and do it on one's own, then use a stable source like the internet archive, or perhaps if one is more adventurous, tindeck. I would however, avoid using an embed of Google Drive file. It simply doesn't work across all browsers. however, it is likely that browsers other than Chrome will sometimes have problems too. So, if one doesn't have Chrome, get it. The open source Chromium is good too. But the honest truth is, if one uses Windows instead of Linux, Chrome is easier to get and use.

Another experimental attempt

Might as well try this here as well, since it half worked on another blog space. Of course, I should keep in mind that this is where I try out new ideas first. It is a link to some music. So far, it seems to work best using Chrome, but not at all in Firefox or Opera Here is the link. the only thing I can say is use Chrome, not Firefox or Opera, or any other browser.

Another test of IA viewer to work in Firefox

I think if I use a different embed code that can be found on Internet Archive site with the item, then it might actually work in Firefox without a plugin. Let's see....


IA Embed and different browsers, and Opera looks good lately

Really Firefox? Crying about a plugin? Firefox can not display the embed of the Internet Archive document viewer without a plugin. Opera could see everything, and the video and audio looked especially good too. I guess Chrome is still the best browser if you want to be able to see everything, but the version of Opera that is available for Linux is actually really good too. It might have to get used more. Maybe. Seems to me there were a few sites that didn't like it, though. I'll have to check it out some more first.

But Chrome is what can see all the audio/video/embed/other. opera seems super fast though. Hmm...

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Aiff best copies

I may have gotten better at post-production finally to the point where I can sort of do it. Here are the best copies of songs so far.